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Dr. A: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen! I trust you are all rested after last nights workshops and fulfilled by today’s

 Chinese-style breakfast, per Mrs. Dr.L.’s suggestions for brain food! I have an announcement! There will be no evening workshops Thursday night. Those going to the Art Institute in downtown Chicago will come with me in the gray van. Those going to the organ recital at Rockefeller Chapel, University of Chicago, will go with Dr. D in the blue van. For those staying, we have a quintet playing Telemann, Vivaldi, Bach and Mozart’s clarinet quintet in A, K581. We all need great music for the soul.

Those wanting to make phone calls must do in our Chicago quarters.There are no phones in the main house or any other building. We only use the DC intercoms. Also, we have no commercial 110v 60Hz electricity in any of our buildings. Let me remind you, once again, to use the electric shavers we have provided, or razors. Ladies, your attendant, Mrs H. And Staff, will attend to any of your needs. The library is open all the time. Thank you. Dr. D, please?

Dr. D: Thank you, Dr. A. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Since we are running early (laughter), we will run the cine film, shown yesterday, by popular request. It seems that many of us here had dreams about these diagrams shown by Mrs. Dr. L yesterday. Lights, please? ( the 6 minute cine film is shown) Thank you,

Dr. B. We have had a change in speakers, Ms. Dr. C will speak next. You all know her, she needs no introduction. However, let me remind you that she is a master of clairvoyance, clair sentience and bio-radio (remote viewing). Permit me to welcome Ms.Dr.C. (applause).

Ms.Dr.C: Thank you, Dr. D. Gutten morgen, dear colleagues. I wish to begin by asking how many had dreams about brainwave diagrams last night. Hands up, ya? Let me see. I count 27? What? On yes. 29. About half the group. Gut! I wish to inform you that you were all a part of an experiment yesterday. (Laughter)

Dr.Z: You call this Americanish hospitalishe? In CCCP only experiment is to see how much vodka you drink. That also gives great dreams! (wild laughter and raucous comments)

Ms.Dr.C: I am glad we have such a live group of scientists here. Laughter is our greatest cathartic, as you all know. I just hope that was not a nervous laugh! ( more laughter) The reason what this is so important is that unbeknownst to you, we run a “double blind” experiment yesterday to do in vivo research. This is perfect time and group for that. I am one of the three researchers involved in this brain wave research. The other researcher is back in England, and is not part of this group.

Only Mrs.Dr.L and I knew about this experiment. We will discuss that later. Now, I wish to have the lights and projector ready. Thank you, Dr. B.


I wish to start with a discussion of the revolutionary research of Herr Professor Doktor Tomas Landh, a biophysicist and bio-materials scientist. He has advanced a new theory based on solid evidence that conflicts greatly with current views on cellology, especially neuronal brain cells. Current theory is based on two-dimensional models of thin microtome sections of cells viewed under optical or transmission microscopy, which states that the cell’s membrane is a spherical double layer of fatty lipids having their liophobic ends pointing inward, and liophyllic16 ends pointing outwards with protein structures
at either surface or squeezing through the membrane. Show the first slide. Next slide.

You see here, this shows the protoplasm in center and looks like round circles, ya? Doktor Landh is not arguing cell function, but more the structural topology of its true geometry. After reviewing thousands of published fotos in histology literature for the past 35 years, he is convinced the current view is incorrect.


What he did, is not use transmission electron microscopy (TEM),but scanning electron microscopy (SEM) with very special dry-freeze techniques to preserve actual cell morphology without preparation artifacts. He then performed a mathematical topoloanalysis (MTA) to correlate hypothesis with observations, and found that cells, far from being spherical 3-D little balls, ya?, were in reality very complex 3-D aggregates following a precise topological law known as Periodic Minimal Surface (PMS), not to be confused with female PMS, ya? (roaring laughter) I will skip the details, but Doktor Landh has postulated that the actual cell morphology and cell continuum is not a random spherical configuration, but a precise crystalline aggregate of cubic-shaped cells whose membranes show a six-fold symmetry!

Traces of the Egyptian Flower of Life symmetry, maybe, ya?(17) Furthermore, the cytoskeleton or protein skeleton of the cell grows in a spiral pattern, very similar to DNA/RNA geometry. I wish to have the next five slides, Dr. B. You see how the cell grows from a two-dimensional circle to a cubic aggregate if you apply the rules of topology, ya? You see also the repeating pattern, like a crystal, ya? This cubic shape is probably dictated by functional cellular requirements, and determines the actual cell behavior.

Finally, his last phenomenal discovery was that, as a materials scientist – like the American Dr. William Tiller – he was very familiar with metallic and metalloid microstructure. When he saw the high-angle SEM’s at low resolution and high angle, he noticed the pattern resembled what material scientists call a photonic crystal, a lattice structure of atoms or molecules that is sensitive to electromagnetic radiation, or light, ya?

So he realised, of course! That explains the work of Herr Doktor Popp from Switzerland (18) and his photon cell experiments.

In other words, the cells are morphologically arranged like a PMS structure that maximises its surface per unit volume for absorption of energy. It follows, therefore, that cells, especially neuronal cerebral cells, are crystalline electromagnetic transducers – in other words, they respond to light, ya? (19)

That explains why not only exodermal (skin) cells, but deep endodermal cells, including (those in) the pineal gland, are sensitive to light. The current view maintains that light photons do not affect metabolism. Doktor Landh’s research contradicts that, and categorically shows how cells are structurally and morphologicaly equipped to act as light transducers, ya? That is the conclusion of our own research. (standing ovation and applause )


Ms Dr. C: Dankershen. Thank you, respected colleagues. You know, we may just be a biological black hole! (more laughter)

Now, let me go into the second topic of my talk. I wish for the lights, please. Thank you.,

Dr. B. This topic of brain research verges almost on paraphysics, the favourite topic of our CCCP colleagues. (cheers) A Polish researcher, Dr. Richard Cytowic, has been researching an unusual phenomenon known as synesthesia, a condition where one sense overlaps with another, such as “tasting colours”, “smelling colours”, “tasting words”, “feeling sensations and emotions in vivid colours”, such as sexual orgasms (loud laughter). Background question – how can we do that? (more laughter)

The phenomenology of synesthesia cannot be explained by the present neurological model of the brain that maintains that the cortical regions are responsible for most physical senses. The rational cortex is responsible for sensory perception. This can’t explain synesthesia. Instead, Doktor Cytowic argues that it is the limbic system or “emotional brain” with its neural networks beneath the endocortex that has channels of communication with other parts of the brain via the endocrine and hormonal systems. It follows from his research that the dominance and pre-eminence of the cortex over the limbic system is not perfunctory, and the limbic system is not subordinate to it. It appears that it is actually the “central control”, the CPU, to use computer language, of the overall brain function. This would intimate that functionally, the cortical functions and limbic functions are nested, or “multiplexed”, and that information and data acquired by the brain can be, or is, processed by parallel computation, ya?

The important implication is that this phenomenon of synesthesia suggests that the learning process could be directly linked to emotions, rather that to sensory stimuli alone. The common feature of so-called “synesthetics” (20) is that they have phenpmenal memories, amazing visualisation abilities, like seeing vivid shapes and colours, and also remarkable psychic abilities, such as precognitions, deja-vu, clairvoyance, telepathy and remote viewing and sensing. But, unfortunately, these abilities are regarded as “abnormal” or “strange”. So, they play these down and hide them. Ah, I forgot. These people don’t do very well in math, and they often get lost on the streets — poor orientation. The experimental conclusions, conducted on subjects under controlled laboratory conditions, forced Dr. Cytowic to make a courageous statement: “synesthesia takes place in the left side of the limbic system, deep in the temporal lobe.” This confused everyone in the neurological community.

But, we know that what he is talking about is the so-called “hyperfunctions of the limbic system”, as yet unrecognised, unaccepted and non-existent to orthodox medical and psychological sciences.

Traditional neurology proposes a hard-wired circuitry of neuronal networks mediating neurological functions. The new view requires and proposes new electrical channels of communication. This has been dubbed “volume transmission” in contra distinction to the traditional “wiring transmissions” mediated by the normal axons, synapses, dendrites and spikes. Some Eastern researchers, by contrast, regard that “synesthesia” is a “normal” condition we are born with, but culturally is “blotted out” of our neural functions. Only a few individuals manage to maintain this function as adults, who have retained this phenomenon as a conscious awareness – even if it appears strange!

Ironically, the purpose of training in trascendental meditation (TM) in the Siddhis program, the Magickal training in Hermetic Orders, like our own, and various types of Yogas, is to arouse these “synesthetic functions”, for they verge very closely the phenomenology of “psychic powers”. These parapsychic functions, hitherto unexplained by physics, medicine, psychology or even parapsychology, fall, of course, in the realm of “brain hyperfunction”, or should we say pre-cultural “normal functions”, ya?

With the research we conducted with Mrs. Dr.L discussed yesterday, and with this overview of today’s information, I think it is obvious that the present neurological brain models are in dire need of fundamental revision. Comparatively, we know more about the ocean that we know about the brain. We understand water, but what about thought? (21)

Dr Z: Comrade Frau Doktor C! (laughter) What mechanism in brain do you suppose will explicate the phenomenon of seeing with the eyes closed, or blindfolded, like Yogins, also KGB and CIA special members trained to see in total black at night?

Ms.Dr.C: Is that a trick question? (laughter) You are the expert in that field, Comrade Ruski! (more laughter) No? Innsbruck, Ich muss dich lassen (she begins to sing, and everyone laughs)

Dr Z: No! I am serious. I wish to compare theory, because one of my friends here has a different explanation!

Ms.Dr.C: Different from what? (laughter and general pandemonium)

Dr D: Ladies and gentlemen, permit me to interrupt. I think we need a fifteen minute coffee – I mean TEA – break!

Ms.Dr.C: Now, we are all fresh. I wish to continue my lecture. I answer question later, Dr. Z. Did Dr. B pass the questionnaires? Gut. We fill them later. Now, I wish to explain the experiment. I wish for Dr. B to have the cine filmstrip ready for show. Thank you.


About five years ago, the topic of the effect of electromagnetic fields on humans became very notorious due to the books and articles by Mr.Paul Brodeur (22), who wrote the most controversial articles to this day in the very popular New Yorker magazine. Since then, he wrote other books and made video films. Simultaneously, but with less notice, researchers in CCCP and Germany were investigating effects of lights, colour and pulsing light, and colour flashes on the brain of animals and humans, as well as on the mind/psyche. I will not go into detail, because new technologies emerged from said endeavours, including the brainwave altering machines in France, Germany, and their American counterpart, like today you see advertised (Zygon,Voyager,etc). New technologies emerged, based on light and sound, based on the research of Drs. Thomas Budzynski and Igor Lozanov. I believe Dr.Z and friends know them personally. Anyway, the main theoretical construct behind the so-called “psycho-acoustical stimulation” and “luminal brain entrainment”, the technologies behind those devices, was the new and revolutionary theory of the “holographic quantum mechanical brain”, or the “Bohm-Pribram Model”, for short. We have copies of
those research papers if anyone wants them. 23 See Dr. D, ya?

The area explored by Dr. Budzynski was the Theta, or “twilight state”. To quote him directly, “the areas ranging between 4 to 7 cps and the hypnagogic state”, or spontaneous imagery that supposedly emanates from Jung’s “personal and collective unconscious” when the mind is suitably stimulated. Jung used active imagination and mandalas to reach the “unconscious”.

Modern technology uses electromagnetic and acoustical stimulation. The fields of “subliminal psychology” and “psychology of the unconscious” postulated by Carl Gustav Jung are the keys to understanding this synergy of brain and psyche.

To summarise the brain phenomenology behind these novel technologies of light and sound, brain entrainment occurred by (because of) the auricular and occular pieces of the machine, and the effect was the alteration of the (levels of the) neurotransmitters serotonin, norepinephrine and beta endorphins by Alpha and Theta induced states. They published data, which we critically analysed, and found to be incorrect and misleading. But, then, these are marketing endeavours, not scientific.

However, we did experiment using the very machines on the market and found most interesting information. We were our own volunteers, or guinea pigs – something all scientists should do instead of using animals. (applause) After we recorded and obtaineded all the info we needed and plotted cerebral magnetic fields using the protocol developed by Mrs. Dr.L., we noticed that all three of us, plus four other volunteers, had the same dream for two or three nights in a row.

So, we decided to investigate further. We had the available data, so we gave the three devices to Herr Doktor G., the mad scientist with his electronic sniffers (laughter), and he analysed each device down to the silicon microchips! We will not discuss the electronic details. That stuff is beyond our scope of expertise, but what we did find is that there are multiple electronic functions being formulated by the machines that apparently were not in the original set of programs or functions advertised. Very curious indeed. Further research by Dr. G revealed that these devices were powerful receivers for some form of signals that were not straight electromagnetic waves – perhaps higher order electromagnetics24, such as scalar waves.

They seem to become more pronounced when these machines were close to an operating TV set or computer VDT screen. Keep that info in mind for later.

Two or three days later, I had a dream about the DNA and RNA molecules dancing to beautiful music, but when a strange sound was heard, the music stopped, and the DNA and RNA molecules started to go crazy and fight amongst themselves. I awoke frightened, but I recorded the dream in detail. Later in the day, I read a paper describing a new technology of DNA and RNA alteration based on radio frequencies called “in vivo microsurgery” created by MRX, Inc. 25 I did not pay much attention to that, but it was synchronistic about my previous dream, ya? But that night, when my husband and I were reading and listening to music of Mozart, his flute and harp concerto, I fell asleep on the armchair and had the dream about the DNA and RNA molecules dancing again, but this time so beautifully, it was almost like a real-life ballet I was watching. Then, I woke up and realised the dream. Sound affects the resonance frequency of the DNA and RNA molecules. Certain specific frequencies, timbres, pitch, and characteristic musical themes create either harmonic resonance or dis-harmonic resonance. Naturally, Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi, Telemann and the old masters’ music is very beautiful and harmonious, where “modern music” is highly questionable.


In collaboration with Mrs. Dr. L, we found light and colour frequencies that were geometrical harmonics of the Theta brainwaves emitted during lucid dreaming. We used Fourier and Wiener transforms to create optical patterns and enfolded them in their graphics showing the cerebral magnetic fields you saw in the cine filmstrip. We also determined some resonant vibrations of the sound corresponding to melatonin, the neurotransmitter secreted by the pineal, and responsible for sleep-dream cycles. We found the application would be for a person to construct a symbol or mandala following Jung’s or Yoga instructions, select a musical piece that one truly loves, preferably harp or flute, like the ancient Egyptians or Greeks, contemplate it while listening to the music, and then go to sleep. Repeating this for a week or so will immediately affect the DNA, RNA and immune system, and healing will occur almost “miraculously”.

Dr. M: Have you tried this technique on sick people already?

Ms.Dr.C: Ya vol, we have indeed tried it on many people. Mrs. Dr. L, in her own medical practice, quite confidentially of course, has tried it with 100% success, both in China and the West. Of course, she used Chinese music in China and Mozart in the West. We are using two pieces by Mozart as our control music. The harp and flute double concerto and the Clarinet Quintet in A, K581, which will be played here Thursday night. We are doing further research in this topic, but very confidentially, because of you all know who, ya? Ya! This may prove to be a blessing to mankind, because this simple process addresses the DNA, RNA and immune system directly, and according to Mrs.Dr.L, also the thymus and pineal glands.

Interestingly, it is the locus of the Upper Tan-Tiens and Triple Warmer in Chinese ancient medicine, the Cauldrons and transducers of Chi, or Life Force. Fortunately, both Mrs. Dr. L and I have orthodox medical degrees, and wear the “white coats of medical approval” ( laughter).

What we do is to make sure our research patients “entertain” themselves drawing symbols of their dreams in full colour, admiring them before they go to sleep, and listening to the music tapes of Mozart or Master Ludwig von Fu-Man-Chu (roaring laughter). There are some patients in the research hospital to whom we can talk frankly about this technique. Most people respond quite enthusiastically about it, and of course, when they are healed, they tell others about their “secret”! We are collecting fantastic information and feedback. We are also experimenting with monotonic harmonics, or single frequencies, that may be disguised as “background noise”. Very clever, ya? Any questions?

Dr. R: Are you exploring the application of magnetic fields directly to the brain for inducing cerebral hyperfunctions, like induced psychic powers, astral phenomena and time travel, besides healing?

Mrs.Dr.C: Absolutely! We know government agencies have been doing that for years, but we do have totally different goals. Of course, we are all bound by the strict rules of the Order of absolute non-interference. We can’t even help our own families unless they want to be helped. Remember, our Oath of Secrecy is absolute! Alateia Gnosis! (26)

One “pet project” we have is to help our young children to be “deprogrammed” from the influences of schools, TV and radio media, videogames, etc. We do this by inducing creativity in them to create their own symbols and mandalas by playing the music while they are going to sleep. We have four children – three of primary school age. I am sure most of you have children as well, so this may be of great benefit to our own siblings. However, the magnetic field research requires very special helmets, which Her Dr.G is building for us. We only have one now, and we need at least two more. Our results cannot be discussed at this point. Last question?

Dr.E: What do you think of virtual reality helmets? What do you think of virtual reality as an emerging technology?

Mrs.Dr.C: Ya! Excellent question. Yes, we have researched it. That imaginary space is still very, very far from looking “real”. It also affects the brain and psyche very adversely. Stay away from it. Thank you. I see it is lunchtime! Gut!


1. In deference to government mandated electronic altering of brainwaves, since they want the only game in town. Too bad the NWO does not realize it will be the source of its own undoing. When the equipment is shut down and people awake … wait and see.

2. Perhaps another reason why these agencies did not like “Pandora’s Box”, because it gave away details about the remote transceivers in televisions and other data.

3. Note: The recent linkup of McCaw Cellular, ATT, Disney (who is delving into virtual reality educational modes), Microsoft, the “information highway”, and classified developments in artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, bioelectronics, hyperfield electronics and implant technology all point to a concerted effort in this direction. Historically, this kind of process is an off-world one that has existed for millions of years. Those of you having access to Sector 9 Hubbardian material know.

4. Many of these protocols are detailed in Matrix III Volume One.

5. This very fact can also be examined in light of the book Celestine Prophecies, in that those involved in the NWO Mind Control and Domination program must exist as “energy vampires”, since they are unable to draw energy from the Universal Source and are firmly grounded in ego aggrandizement, power and control in an effort to maintain a parasitic “symbiosis” with the mass population, whom they view as having Dasein ohne Leben, existance without life. Extension of WWII Nazi Germany, etc.

6. Instead of “internal technology”, which is infinitely more powerful.

7. If this is done, it will probably be done very selectively, since some devices that are marketed are themselves designed to “sensitize” the unknowing to existing or planned electromagnetic and scalar protocols. Best to stick with internal modes entirely, folks.

8. Thus, the rationale for agency trafficking in specific drugs that ground a person to lower brain states (opiates and derivatives, street drugs, etc) and form a neuro-chemical basis for sensitization for nested overlapping chemical and electronic paradigms. See Matrix III, Volume One.

9. Including over-the-counter drugs available on a common basis in society.

10. Supplemented with public attention to Neurolinguistic programming, et al.

11. Standard reference electronics for television signals nationwide comes from Boulder Colorado, at the former National Bureau of Standards, which interfaces with the rest.

12. We have been advising people about this for a least two years. You know where to get these devices if you have been paying attention to your surroundings.

13. Of course, by injecting enough disabling co-factors into the environment, the power structure is making sure that the public does not have access to burgeoning psychic abilities and telepathic interchange. They’d rather you use your cellular phone.

14. Which lends itself to the notion that any scientist who is employed, on tenure or steeped in academia, cannot truly function as a scientist, since truth and revelation does destroy structure and provide novelty – the average scientist, afraid of losing funding and afraid of professional censure, cannot publically ackowledge any degree of developmental truth which would collapse a set of major paradigms upon which employment depends. After all, Penrose doesn’t want to be a Sheldrake, does he?

15. See Matrix IV: The Equivideum-Paradigms and Dimensions of Human Evolution and Consciousness.

16. Commonly, “hydrophobic” and “hydrophyllic”, water-hating and water loving, respectively.

17. See Matrix IV for further information and explanation.

18. Editor Note: Dr. Fritz Popp (see Matrix III V1) did research detailing the photonic emissions and electromagnetic interaction relative to DNA/RNA.

19. Which also lends a new view to the existence of pyramidal-shaped cellular structures within the brain – specifically, cells shaped like two pyramids base to base – exactly the same configuration as the Delta-T [Montauk] antenna. Get it?

20. People who experience synesthesia phenomena.

21. The paradigm in Matrix III V1 proposes a model for thought, brain attenuation thereof, and processes where thought descends into particulate mass.

22. See New Yorker magazine for 1989, June 12, June 19 and June 26. Paul Brodeurs’ three-part article entitled “Annals of Radiation”, about EMF hazards.

23.This has been discussed during the past year in the Unified Field and Consciousness series in The Leading Edge.

24. See Matrix III for a review of higher order EM functions and discussion thereof. My own personal opinion is that you
should put your light-sound machine on the floor and jump on it, or hit it with a hammer and get rid of it.

25. As synchronicity would have it, we received data on MRX technology just before receiving the data for this presentation. Some of the MRX data is in this LE issue.

26. Truth and knowledge is foremost!

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